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Witness: Overwhelmed Iranian hopsital staff, Iranian police confiscating bodies in trucks

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According to the Guardian’s News Blog a medical student working in a hospital in Iran revealed the desperation of an overwhelmed staff:

I only want to speak about what I have witnessed. I am a medical student. There was chaos at the trauma section in one of our main hospitals. Although by decree, all riot-related injuries were supposed to be sent to military hospitals, all other hospitals were filled to the rim.

Last night, nine people died at our hospital and another 28 had gunshot wounds. All hospital employees were crying till dawn. They (government) removed the dead bodies on back of trucks, before we were even able to get their names or other information. What can you even say to the people who don’t even respect the dead. No one was allowed to speak to the wounded or get any information from them.

(The rest of the student’s story after the jump)

This morning the faculty and the students protested by gathering at the lobby of the hospital where they were confronted by plain cloths anti-riot militia, who in turn closed off the hospital and imprisoned the staff. The extent of injuries are so grave, that despite being one of the most staffed emergency rooms, they’ve asked everyone to stay and help–I’m sure it will even be worst tonight.

What can anyone say in face of all these atrocities? What can you say to the family of the 13 year-old boy who died from gunshots and whose dead body then disappeared? This issue is not about cheating (election) anymore. This is not about stealing votes anymore. The issue is about a vast injustice inflected on the people. They’ve put a baton in the hand of every 13-14 year old to smash the faces of “the bunches who are less than dirt” (government is calling the people who are uprising dried-up torn and weeds). This is what sickens me from dealing with these issues. And from those who shut their eyes and close their ears and claim the riots are in opposition of the government and presidency!! No! The people’s complaint is against the egregious injustices committed against the people.

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June 24, 2009 at 13:31

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  1. Thank you for posting. Keep them coming The world is watching. BE CAREFUL.

    Cheryl

    June 24, 2009 at 16:04

  2. I think the entire issue of “Islamic Republic” has to be revisited. The government is being run by a bunch of demons loosed from the pits of hell, not a bunch of holy theologians. This is worse than “conversion by sword”.

    twitter.com/drgarym

    Gar Myers

    June 24, 2009 at 16:51

    • Agreed. As of the moment I’ve been working on an ‘opinion’ piece revisiting and questioning that exact issue. It will be post within the hour.

      internationalpost

      June 24, 2009 at 16:56

      • I don’t see how the regime can survive after this no matter who is appointed as supreme stooge. These Mullahs have raped the wealth of Iran enriching themselves at the expense of the Iranian people. No one of them can do enough to unravel the past week of bloodshed. A lot of Muslims that wanted reform are totally disillusioned with their govt. maybe to the point of having their faith shaken. The younger Iranians are more secular, rejecting the oppressive tenants of their theocracy. Many Iranians are turning to Christianity. The movement is growing inside Iran and I predict this will fuel it as no other. The big question is what to replace it with. There are not enough feathers in the chicken to pluck, the bird needs to be killed. Perhaps a President selected by free elections with a religious clergy? There are a lot of issues to be worked through. One thing is clear, this system is irreparably broken. If if Rafsanjani pulls together enough votes to have Khamenei removed, there will still be too much blood on the hands of the leaders for the system to survive.
        drgarym

        Gar Myers

        June 24, 2009 at 22:32

    • they will pay. one day they will all pay dearly for their demonic ways

      Elyar

      June 25, 2009 at 02:41

      • Some of us will be watching them getting their reward for what they did. Though it will be more than just, I doubt we will be cheering. It is an inevitability that they can’t escape short of sincere repentance. Personally, anyone spending an eternity in torment without a shred of hope bothers me.
        drgarym

        drgarym

        August 11, 2009 at 01:14

  3. My heart cries for all of the casualties, their families, and caregivers. I feel so helpless. We are listening. May all those who inflict this punishment realize the world is watching. Peace be with you soon.

    Irene

    June 24, 2009 at 17:01

    • Never underestimate the power of prayer.
      drgarym

      drgarym

      June 26, 2009 at 03:37

      • prayers will not help us any more,those thugs need some punishment,and the only way we can punish them,is by force…..we need to get arms,and weapons,and attack one basiji outpost after another,until we controll them all….

        Ari

        July 4, 2009 at 10:49

  4. they are demons. they are liers. they are murderes of completely innocent people. they are a cult. they need to be removed. they are the weed and dirt. they are going to pay back for every drop of blood that they have spilled. ever single drop.

    Elyar

    June 25, 2009 at 02:43

  5. they are not human. they do not have emotions of compassion and respect for the people. they deserve nothing less than destruction.

    Elyar

    June 25, 2009 at 02:45

  6. They chant God is Great. I say God is love. The greatest act of love the world has ever seen is at the cross. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son,that whoever believes in him will not perish, but will have everlasting life. The Bible John 3:16.

    drgarym

    June 26, 2009 at 03:19

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  8. Freedom is in the horizon, these savage beasts will suffer their deeds soon, conscious could be pushed away but it will confront every one of them soon or later, turn to people and stop this madness, people are uniting and they will reveal soon, save your soul and defend your people and country, may you be forgiven by merciful Iranian people, watch how people defended you when you were out numbered…My heart is aching for each and every one in Iran…I wish I was there..Free Iran from these dirt upon our great history, shame on you Khamenehei..Ahmadi you will be tied to a tree and slapped by all one by one…you lairs..low life scums.

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    July 4, 2009 at 05:33

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  13. I am outside of Iran but have received unconfirmed news, from normally reliable source, that Iranian authorities have asked some doctors to sign Death Certifacates for people in custody who then disappear.
    This is shocking, illegal, a huge human rights violation and needs addressing if true. If there is anyone who can, and is willing to, comfirm this they should. Then the International Community needs to respond.

    Blake Parker

    July 4, 2009 at 16:38

  14. I’m afraid to say that something similar would happen in the US if we protested in the numbers that are doing so in Iran. People are now photographed, arrested and harassed for doing what is supposedly in their constitutional rights. (GW Bush said it’s just a piece of paper after all). If the numbers became overwhelming, I’m not unsure how the government would react but it wouldn’t be pretty.

    and a word for drgarym….

    Isn’t it become obvious that the world will be a better place once Religion is no longer a force? I know, I know, yours is right and every other one is wrong. You believe in the Christan God, how many wars have been fought in his name?

    darabblerouser

    July 4, 2009 at 20:31

    • Things would never come to that here. We are exercising our Constitutional rights protesting the jam down regarding health care. The rudder steering the ship of state will be turned without violence. If things were bad enough that thousands of people protested daily for several months, the bottom line is we have a 2nd Amendment and the temperament to use it wisely.

      drgarym

      drgarym

      August 9, 2009 at 14:41

    • The greatest genocides of this century such as the millions Hitler, Stalin, and Pol perpetuated on their people have been done by Marxist regimes who held that there is no God, man is evolved, not created therefore whatever the state decides is right is the bottom line. I don’t consider the thugs right now running Iran legitimate. They have raped the Iranian economy and give Islam a bad name. Israel annihilated peoples when they took over Palestine 3000 years ago and for good reason. The wars the western nations fought were basically when the church and the state were wedd. The wars between England, France, and Spain were more about power and religion was used to justify.
      Look at the good America has done. We liberated Europe twice from tyranny in the last century. After WWII we were the only country with The Bomb. Our military industrial base was intact and untouched. We did not conquer, we helped Japan and Germany to rebuild.It is arguable whether the blood our people in Iraq and Iran was right. We paid a price to bring them freedom. I pray for a good end. When ever there is a natural disaster who is the country first and foremost with aid, and not just from our govt. My church took up a collection of $300,000 after the Tsunamis several years ago. We are a Judeo Christian nation where all are guaranteed the right to worship the way they see fit. We believe as a nation all of our rights are given from God and governments are formed to protect those rights. I don’t know where you are or your culture, but if you are young and living in Iran I would certainly understand where you are coming from. You can blame a religion, but don’t blame God. Better still to blame we fallen sinners for our imperfections and lust for power.
      drgarym

      drgarym

      August 9, 2009 at 23:56

      • PS: Jesus said “suffer the little children to come onto me for such as these is the Kingdom of Heaven. Hardly seems like a God who wants to send babies to hell.

        drgarym

        drgarym

        August 10, 2009 at 00:07

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  16. I am amazed at how one can call God ‘Love’ after having to witness people being murdered and maimed in the name of this same God, who sent all the people who lived before Jesus straight to hell (John 3:16), who calls good and evil persons alike ‘sinners’.

    joost

    July 4, 2009 at 22:58

    • God didn’t send anyone to hell, he came to redeem them from it. If you study Sheol, it was a holding tank until Christ came both for the righteous and unrighteous. Moses was not “sent to Hell” anymore than David, Daniel, and the rest of the prophets. Everyone born is a sinner. Jesus came to redeem us. It is our own freewill that determines our destiny. They had a choice. YOU have a choice. Jesus had a choice too. He chose the cross, the greatest act of love in all of history. Don’t blame God if you choose not to take the life preserver he throws at you.

      BTW, It is not Jesus Christ who is murdering and torturing Iranians. We are living in a penal colony for fallen angels, and they seem to be the ones running Iran right now.

      drgarym

      August 9, 2009 at 14:47

      • To call babies sinners is nothing short of emotional blackmail and I will not listen to it. Your word games have no effect on me; sending people to hell is the same as not sending people to heaven, and it’s again emotional blackmail, especially if you say that it’s the fault of the non-believer. You speak of love, but you use fear of damnation to get people to join your cult.

        Also, by calling everyone a sinner and only judging whether somebody believes in Jesus you totally deny that there are people who do good things and people who do evil things, like an Iranian secret agent shooting the balls off of a young Iranian man that wishes to be free of religious oppression. To call both these men sinners is to me appalling.

        The image of a holding tank full of souls that wait for the appearance of a prophet is too foreign for me to discuss properly, and frankly not very relevant to me.

        Joost

        August 9, 2009 at 20:42

      • A question as it pertains to human nature. Do you have to teach a baby to do wrong? When you tell him/her not to touch something (usually for a very good reason)what is the first thing he wanted to do. God told us not to eat the fruit and we disobeyed him. Dropping people a lifeline is an attempt to keep them from going. You presume Christianity is a religion out of fear. I call it one of grace and mercy via the cross. Islam it seems along with the other religions of the world who demand of their followers obedience to rules and regulations, who promise them salvation by either becoming martyrs or following the strict dictates with the hope someday that God may find you worthy to enter paradise. Why do you call Christianity a cult. There are cults that sprung from Christianity. By the way, who do you say Jesus is? Your calendar is defined by his birth. Was he God, a liar, or a lunatic.`He was crucified because he claimed to be God. His resurrection from the dead three days later is historical fact. Who do you say he is?

        drgarym

        drgarym

        August 10, 2009 at 00:04

      • [Also, by calling everyone a sinner and only judging whether somebody believes in Jesus you totally deny that there are people who do good things and people who do evil things, like an Iranian secret agent shooting the balls off of a young Iranian man that wishes to be free of religious oppression. To call both these men sinners is to me appalling.]

        Know that it tears my heart apart the atrocities done by the demons running your country, the religious leaders that are using religion to justify themselves and their lust for power. Our works are not what justify us before God. It is our hearts. I loose a lot of sleep in prayer because of what I see going on in Iran. The bottom line is there is good in the world and there is evil. My parents lived through the Nazis. I live through Iran’s struggle. If God would allow I would come to Iran and have a party with my .45. I could sleep easily after putting a bullet in the head of the monsters (they are what Lenin would call useful idiots). America bought her freedom at the cost of 750,000 lives. We have paid a lot more to keep it. You have paid a little bit less. Funny, the value of something (freedom) is defined by either the price you paid (in lives, an incalculable amount)or the length of time you have been denied it.
        I see the price Iran has paid in blood. I see, but am still trying to understand the balance between God’s mercy and his Holiness. I know in my heart that the worth, value of every soul who died is more important to God than nations. Every one of us has been given a choice. Our redemption cost him the life of His Son. When we stand before him someday we will be held accountable to him for our hearts, not what we did. There is no way I am going to hold out to God my resume of 80+ years as a justification for him letting me into paradise. He knows my heart and there is no way I can argue my case. An example of the importance of one soul before God can be illustrated in Neda and the death of her innocent life. She made a great statement by her death, something she did not intend, but something that had great power. I hope and pray I meet her someday. When you live 35 years of your life with Jesus in your heart, and you go through innumerable struggles it gives you a wonderful perspective. God IS love, and nothing happens in your life without his permission. Maybe 1000 years from now our discussion will have been seen to make a difference. Your life/soul is more important to God than nations.

        drgarym

        drgarym

        August 10, 2009 at 01:52

      • I think we’re not so different, drgarym. You believe God is love and that he will judge us based on our hearts, not what we have done. I think love and hate just are, here in us, or in our hearts, and what we do follows out of our hearts. If we let love rule in our heart, we’ll do good things, and God, were he to exist (which you believe and I don’t), would not be a merciful God if he sent us to hell (or denied access to paradise) just for not believing in him after having used the Reason he also supposedly gave us. People can love and do good without believing in God and I’m sure he would appreciate it.

        This is for me not a problem because I don’t believe either in heaven our hell – I believe that this here Earth is our paradise and it could be even better if more people just let real love rule in their hearts.

        To me it also answers the question of whether people are born sinners – yes, children will do wrong, but good parents teach them to do good and to love. Children are not just sinners, they have potential both ways. So to say that people are born sinners seems too negative to me and it denies that children are full of creativity and spontaneity and that we can learn from them even as we teach them.

        For the record, I’m not Iranian but Dutch, but when I see what the brave Iranians are doing I feel that no border should be able to separate us from each other and that we should stand together for the cause of freedom from oppression, be it religious or otherwise.

        Thank you for taking the time to explain your views, I appreciate it and I also owe you an apology for having been so harsh to you – I’ve had a Christian upbringing and I’ve had to do a lot of reasoning and searching in my heart to be free from it, and at times the Christian viewpoint still ticks me off. I’m trying to be tolerant of religion but when I see what the mullahs in Iran are doing I really feel that we all have a lot still to learn.

        Joost

        August 10, 2009 at 06:36

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  19. “drgarym” You bring up some very good points most of which I agree with you. Just so you know, I’m not an Iranian, I’m an outsider, but I am, as a volunteer, for voice for an unnamed muted & repressed Iranian. That voice has already been heard, in a small but symbolic way across the United States, Europe, and into the Middle East, as a Civil & Human Rights supporter, as well as a supporter of Freedom and Democracy in Iran. Myself, I split my time among a few causes – Iran, Darfur, and Northern Uganda, and the United Nations World Food Programme. That’s as much as I can effectively deal with and still keep a somewhat balanced life. Recently I had the pleasure of attending a meeting on the crisis in Darfur sponsored by Physicians for Human Rights in partnership with the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative and Amnesty International. That meeting was held at the JFK School of Government at Harvard University. Today I was involved with showing the documentary “The Reckoning”, a film about the International Criminal Court, at M.I.T..The producer gave me a DVD but he was in Lima,Peru attending the showing of “The Reckoning” followed by a discussion about Impunity. I believe he is also showing another of his documentaries, “State of Fear” about Victims of Fujimori. People such as Gisela Ortiz will take part in the discussion in Lima. If anyone’s interested http://www.skylightpictures.com will give you more information regarding a number of documentaries on Human Rights.

    Yesterday at M.I.T.,we had a very intense discussion after which went past the time the University allotted us for the lecture hall. There were some very prominent Iranians present, International Lawyers, World Recognized Scientists, Human Rights Activists, Authors, Medical Doctors, Politicians (previous), bringing a group of very knowledgeable Iranians together. I need to point out that people should sometimes ‘agree’ that they will ‘disagree’ with regard to some topics. I think that’s a fair way of allowing Iranians (as well as qualified non-Iranians) to express themselves without getting into an inappropriately heated debate.

    Please allow me to tell you now why I’m writing this comment. The meeting and discussion we had today is going to be repeated frequently and regularly. We also hope to begin a live video stream and hopefully interactive chat with members of the audience. It is our intention to reach and involve a large audience, possibly even into Iran (On Demand playback should be available) This will be a moderated but uncensored discussion and will no doubt include some Issues important to Iranians anywhere. There will be no single political, or even religious, focus. Anyone with legitimate issues, questions, or answers to other people’s questions will be welcome. The broadcast will begin in English but after we get a couple more volunteers I’d like to see some Persian or French or a combination of all three languages represented.(Persian should not be any problem) I still have a few technical issues to work out, e.g. our camera’s, video mixer, microphones, and microphone mixer. Maybe M.I.T. will lend the needed hardware to us since the moderator is a Prominent and world recognized Iranian Scientist. We’ll also need a computer better than my laptop. I hope to build a Linux box from the ground up with a high end video & audio card.

    If we accomplish what I’d like, I would be interested in having you participate in part of a discussion. I respect your views and I think you would be an interesting and valuable contributor to at least one broadcast.

    As it is we had a prominent, Internationally known, Lawyer, who brought up some interesting ideas about possibly prosecuting (Mr.) Ahmadinajad, in Europe under the principal of International Justice, for ‘Crimes Against Humanity.’ and/or possibly other charges for crimes he is responsible for as the holder of the position he claims to hold in the Iranian government. We have some doubt that the United States would permit his being taken into custody during his visit to the United Nations. No doubt there will be ‘Mass Demonstrations’ in New York on the day he arrives and it’s even been discussed his motorcade could possibly be blocked by demonstrators and forcing him to take a helicopter to the UN Plaza. (I can not comment further on this subject.)

    In our audience yesterday afternoon several people brought up their objection to Mr. Mir-Hossein Mousavi. Their opinions were welcome. Issues such as the Kurdish people being driven out of Iran (and sometimes into Iraq),the persecution of the Baha’i religious minority, illegal detention, torture, and more. Some controversial and heated debate occurred during this meeting. Remember I’m non-Iranian but I am a trusted volunteer for the voice of a single progressive but muted and repressed Iranian. (I can’t say with 100% certainty but I think it’s a woman.) I really don’t know the person’s name or their exact location, that doesn’t matter to me, only that a repressed voice is still being heard by the world in spite of (Mr.) Ahmadinajad & Supreme Leader
    رهبر معظم Khamenei’s attempts to silence the people of Iran, who are legally (according to the Iranian constitution) attempting to express themselves publicly. I even had the great honor of, as a non-Iranian collect signatures on the Green Scroll in Boston. I was so proud of what the people of Iran accomplished when I watched the display of the Green Scroll in front of the Eiffel Tower in Paris. I was only able to watch the event via LiveStream as it occurred and even had to leave a few minutes before it ended in order to attend, as the volunteer for that muted and repressed Iranian, a local protest. I have not missed a single vigil or protest in the Greater Boston-Cambridge area. It has been my honor to learn the truth about Iranians which some governments distorted previously. I recommend other American and Europeans learn reliable and truthful information on this matter. I do not advocate any outside interference in the matter of Iran but I do advocate people get a better understanding and support these basic Human Rights Issues that Iranians are peacefully and legally addressing all over the entire world. I welcome your, and otherpeoples comments to this post.

    (I have some reservations about this but here is my Twitter name, @bparker001 )

    I will value your comment on what I have written.

    –bp

    Civil & Human Rights Supporter
    Cambridge, MA USA

    Blake Parker

    August 10, 2009 at 08:49

  20. I very much appreciate your involvement. I sense it is for like me more a
    committment of your heart than your wallet. No one who claims to love God
    can sit by and watch what is going on in Iran and have that take a second
    place to more pressing issues such as what color should my next BMW be. If
    you want to put a lablel on me
    , I would call myself politically conservative, and religously an
    Evangelical Christian. Demograpically I represent a significant block of
    Americans. Know that I love God with all my heart, and if there is ANYTHING
    I can do to bring light to the suffering of the Iranian people or to give
    them hope, I am there 110%. I am an Optometrist living in a suburb of San
    Diego. If you want to call me I can be reached at (760) 789-1191. My cell#
    is (760) 207-4888.
    The Iranian people have literally had the rug yanked out from under them
    regarding their religious faith. Religion has always been an important
    center of every culture since the beginning of history. They as a people
    have a BIG hole where befeore they had hope. For the few Iranians I know on
    Facebook I see a deep pain and loss of hope. Again, if there is anything I
    can do either as a voice or through prayer count me in.

    Dr. Gary B. Myers OD

    PS: I may be able to muster a few more troops if and when you need some. I
    hope Persian Kiwi and Oxford girl are doing well.

    drgarym

    August 10, 2009 at 15:16

  21. Joost,
    No problems with you being harsh on me. If I can’t take a little heat I shouldn’t be hanging out in the kitchen. Steel sharpens steel. I look at who we are as people. We believe there is a right and a wrong. We believe in love, but there is also something that fires our hearts to react with outrage when we see gross injustice such as Iran. If we are just a product of chemical evolution than what we feel or think is irrelevant. The few short years we spend on this planet, with all of the joys and hurts in the end have no meaning. Both our capacity to love and our yearning for justice is a reflection of the One who created us. We are accountable to a higher power. He sets the rules. For there to be real love there has to be choice. We chose thousands of years ago to disobey our creator. The story written in the Bible from Genesis to Revelation is the story of our redemption. Utopia on earth can never happen, and every attempt to do so be it by Lenin, Mao, or Hitler has come to the same end. That speaks volumes as to the perfectibility of man and who we are. Every time man tries to be God he ends up becoming the thing he hates. As I opined earlier, we are living in a penal colony for fallen angels. We try to be our own God by being the masters of our own soul, sometimes convincing ourselves that we don’t need God. All the time refusing to bow our heats to him. What kid of a father would we have if he sometimes let us get away with doing something wrong? He would be negligent. What kid of God would a God be if he ignored disobedience? You have mercy and forgiveness, but justice and holiness need to be satisfied. His love, and justice were satisfied at the cross. It was not a compromise, it was love.
    I have overnighted a few times in Vienna coming home from Ukraine. I see the huge Cathedrals and churches built during the Renaissance, some built over generations by the blood, sweat and tears by people for the glory of God. Forgive me for being facetious. They were built by people who in large part tried to be obedient to their religious leaders who were too often more interested in personal power and perks. Seems a condition common to our fallen natures.
    Religion is something common to man, man reaching up to God to find answers and to fill the big hole in our lives. In Christ, it was God reaching down to us by sending his son. He is there if we can look past the external trappings and occasional hypocrisy of organized religion.

    drgarym

    PS: Sorry for the sermon. Sometimes I get carried away with myself.

    drgarym

    August 10, 2009 at 15:58

  22. “The greatest genocides of this century such as the millions Hitler, Stalin, and Pol perpetuated on their people have been done by Marxist regimes who held that there is no God”

    Here’s a small snippet of information for you: Hitler was a Christian. To say that all the atrocities were done by atheists is not honest.

    Joost

    August 16, 2009 at 10:17

    • Hitler claimed to be a Christian. He had as much credibility claiming to be a Christian as he would to be a hard boiled egg. What isn’t talked about is that millions of Christians went to Hitler’s concentration camps and died. Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a well known Christian who was executed by Hitler because he disagreed with him. Corie Tin Boom was a Christian lady who survived Ravensbrook and who’s sister and father died in the camps. Hitler killed many Christians. Christians died opposing Hitler. A lot of Christians were also incarcerated in his camps for helping Jews escape his grasp. That is what tripped up Corie Tin Boom and her family. She lived her faith and paid a price for it. She lived through the hell of the camps and when she was released said that ” No pit is so deep that God’s grace isn’t deeper”. The exact number of Christians incarcerated by Hitler escapes me at this time but it was well up into the millions. The fact that the church stood silent while Hitler committed his atrocities is a dark stain and a condemnation. Jesus Christ said a tree is known by it’s fruit as was Hitler. For a quick read, pick up “The Hiding Place”

      drgarym

      drgarym

      August 16, 2009 at 11:27

    • An abbreviated response to the other post, Hitler claimed to be a Christian. A tree is known by it’s fruits according to the words of Christ in the Bible. How could Hitler claim to be a Christian anymore than Ahmadinejad claim to be a Muslim?

      drgarym

      Dr. Gary B. Myers OD

      August 18, 2009 at 02:11

  23. Hitler claimed to be a Christian. He had about as much in common being a Christian than he would have if he called himself a hard boiled egg. He used a label to co opt the churches. He did to a large part to the shame of the church. They were a threat to his rule. There were a number of Christians who Hitler had killed, such as Dietrich Bonhoeffer who stood up to him and his atrocities. A well known lady, Corrie Ten Boom wrote a book called The Hiding Place. Corrie and her family were caught smuggling Jews out of Holland to escape Hitler’s genocide. She survived but her father and sister died in the camps. She and her sister were incarcerated at Ravensbrook. Millions of Christians, not those who claimed to be Christians, but those who loved Jesus Christ with all their heart, were incarcerated and killed living out their faith, opposing Hitler and helping the Jews. Their faith revealed by their actions speaks louder than their words. Corrie survived Ravensbrook, and later found out she was released through an administrative error, a typo on a release form. Years later she met one of the guards who had tormented her and was involved with the death of her sister. She forgave him. She shared a profound quote, that no pit is so deep, that God’s grace isn’t deeper. Hitler is a manifestation of an Antichrist. Jesus Christ said a tree is known by it’s fruits, and Hitler was in no way a Christian. Big question, who do you say that Jesus Christ is, a liar, lunatic, or as he was crucified by his claims, God.

    drgarym

    Dr. Gary B. Myers OD

    August 18, 2009 at 02:05

  24. Great Blog!……There’s always something here to make me laugh…Keep doing what ya do 🙂

    Discoking

    March 5, 2010 at 17:54


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